You need two free-standing groups of shafts, so only the pattern shafts and only the tie-down shafts are tied to the treadles, besides the tabby shafts. In the photo you can see that the cords are in correct alignment in the six pulleys farthest away from the camera. Thanks again, I’ve tried whats written in the manual. This is an important tip. When I am teaching and I tie-up the treadles as a demonstration, we then check the sheds. I tied a knot at the top of the cord so it can’t fall back through. Do you have any resources on a traditional counterbalance tie-up? Pull the tie-up cord from the shaft down. For shafts 1& 2, your left foot would press shthe treadle for shaft 1 and the right foot for shaft 2. Post was not sent - check your email addresses! For most overshot patterns, the two tabby wefts are: lift 1 & 3 and 2 & 4. eg. You’ll never have to tie up the treadles again on your 4-shaft looms. I bought a used 4-harness, 6 treadle jack loom and have just returned to weaving after many years off. “Warping Your Loom & tying On New Warps.”, High Peggy, I have a counter balance loom that’s about 60 years old , four shafts , and heddles with six treadles . On this page we are going to show in detail how to connect the treadles and the shafts in the side tie-up and how to change the tie-up as required by your weaving drafts. The cord is folded and knotted at the dog clip. I’ll pay the shipping for both books if you want them now. I’m 120 miles NW of Reno NV. On this photo you can see Peggy holding the bundle of the four tie-up cords that we are going to tie to the treadles. This tie up will work for all the possible combinations of shafts on 4-shaft looms and you will never have to tie up the treadles again. And truthfully it confuses me. The 3 rollers are shown on page 115 in my Book #2 which is soon to be out in pdf. Now imagine 3&4–move only one foot to the treadle for shaft 4. Peggy, Ms. Peggy does this method work with four heddles 6 treadles ? ), I need the warping from back to front of the loom as well….how much would all of your books I saw minus the collection you’ve done (ITS BEAUTIFUL!) I’m concerned that it could be a recipe for disaster if you look at some other draft. I can then answer any more questions you might have easier if you have the books on hand. Could be a good thing. I hope I can help you out. I think getting my book Weaving for Beginners is a must for you. It was just a guess on my part to do this as I was getting very frustrated with the sticky warp. Since the height of the shafts can be adjusted with some extra length of the cord at the screw eyes, make the cords about 4-5 inches longer than what you measure from the fold to the screw eye on each side. That clip will be hooked to one or more cords attached to one or more of the shafts. To tie up the treadles, sit under the warp on the back cross bar, where the treadles are hinged. Beneath the castle you can see the cords coming through the small holes from the pulleys and the knots holding them down. Notice the treadle cords on the left are the longest. You may want to notice that the cords from the treadles farthest away are going around the outside pulleys. My looms were built by Jim; this tie-up … You’ll never have to tie up the treadles again on your 4-shaft looms. there is a lot of information with tons of illustrations. Let me know if you have questions you’d like me to address in the blog. You will pull up the treadle using the dog clip attached to the treadle and hook it into the loop of the cord coming down from the pulley.To tie up the remaining three treadles always guide the cords behind their specific shaft and spring. Hammett counterbalance floor loom. Peggy. Tie-ups can be changed in seconds without difficulty. They kept getting caught in each other and all my research for answers came up empty until I found this blog. I am a new weaver. Now, during the Holiday sale you can get a book free with a book purchased. Here you can see the cord going behind the spring for shaft one. When I lift the one off the floor the others come down and match the 1-3 … I have inherited a 45″ countermarche Finnish loom. You can get all the combinations possible with four shafts with this system. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. (The treadles get longer as they are designated for shafts farther and farther from the front of the loom.) It is called the Original Allen Loom. Each cord is … I’ve been running the ‘dancing feet’ in my head and already it is natural. So what I’m designing and laying out with the software is a Lift Plan rather than a Tie Up since that doesn’t have to change, right? There is a piece of wood above the pulleys on the right with holes in it. … Can not wait to try this out! I’m looking for new vie That’s all I know about it. I am having trouble learning how to tie it up correctly. Here it is in short: 1,2 2,3 3,4 4,1. So I tied them up correctly…3/4, 1/4,1/2, 2/3… but I do notice that the bottom of the shafts are hitting (coming to rest) on the cross beam located directly under the shafts. Yes, sometimes you need to push two treadles with one foot. For 2&3 you would move only one foort the left foot over to lift 3 (your right foot would still be on the treadle for shaft 2). Once you have balanced the top of the loom, you can now set up the treadles. A tie up cord will join a hook from the shaft with a hook from the treadle. The knot holds well and it’s easy to take out if you need to. Is this because I need two pieces of wood to counterbalance the shafts from? The upper lamms (not pictured) attached to treadles cause shafts to sink when a treadle is depressed. I can send them priority mail so you can get them in a few days. I’ve been doing some live videos on my Facebook page and the last two have been about tying up the treadles on my loom. It has a whole chapter on adjusting looms with a lot of info on counterbalance looms. There are several possibilities depending upon the design you are looking to make. Diana, Eugene’s wife, Catherine “Jean” Robocker, is still living in Kalispell. Skip to content. Join 2,791 subscribers of my blog and receive an email notice whenever I publish a new post. In particular something that is called Rosepath, that allows me to weave diamonds and twills. I am totally new to weaving and bought a second hand antique Leclerc Fanny counterbalance. The treadles are centered close together to keep the action of each treadle optimal – it the treadle set gets too close to the outside of the loom frame, the treadling deteriorates. Hi FREE SHIPPING on all online domestic orders over $75! I live on SS permanent disability and it takes all I have to stand, bend, twist etc on these looms to attempt to teach new students. The book is just about out of print so I would appreciate you sending it back, but only if you can’t use it. What’s Your Opinion? I’ll try reducing my warp tension. I wrote it with you in mind–what I taught my students. Keep the jacks I think. Cords from the countermarch jacks go over the side of the loom to the lower lamms below. In other words, the cord that we see on the front of this picture is going to a far treadle on of the outside left. In Warping Your Loom & Tying On New Warps, (my book #2) beginning on page 69, It may take me some time to adjust, but I think it may be easier in the long run and may eliminate some of the rocking motion I get now. This picture shows pulling up the treadle cord for the treadle on the outside left, and getting ready to open the clip. Diana. Growing up in Ohio, I peggyoster “Hello friends! The information on tying up the two-beam looms, scroll to the bottom of this page. And tying up the treadles on a countermarch takes only about 1 minutes per treadle more time than on a jack loom. Begin with the treadle at the left (far- thest away from the lam pivot point). If you look to pages 38 and 39 of this book (and elsewhere, this is just specifically mentioned in my email) the threading of the pattern looks simple enough. The tie-up sits in the corner of the draft, between the threading and the treadling. So glad I accidentally found this article. Thank You. I broke two discs in my lower back and have a bulging one on the upper level, 7 abdomen surgeries, broken pelvis and a brain aneurysm….pathetic….but I give GOD literally thanks for every day I have and am living…I use my time wisely…teaching and helping others. for a four shaft loom. 4 shafts and 8 treadles I tied it up with the universal tie up that was listed When I am done and I take out the jack pins the far left treadle rests on the ground, and the other 3 are up too high That side is the 2-4 shafts. Then 3 & 4, then 4&1. 2nd What other books do you have that i should get ..? I am a new weaver (Feb 2017) currently weaving on an HD 4S 4T and quite pleased with the loom, for its (limited) capabilities. Peggy, This reply is in response to Rosepath tie up. This way to tie up your treadles is a fantastic gift that Jim Ahrens taught us. Any suggestions on where to start? 3 and 4? Peggy, hola amigos! As peg pointed out, it is fairly common to use the first 4 treadles for direct tie-up for a twill or other pattern and then use treadles 5 and 6 for the tabby (5=1&3, 6=2&4). If so, how do I know the correct length of the cords attached to shaft 1 and 2…. We call it walking the treadles when you alternate your feet. You can see that six of the cords are taut. At the same time I was gifted a warping loom which my hubby says is too big to set up, but I shall anyway lol My looms were built by Jim; this tie-up is the only choice–because it’s so flexible. There are 6 treadles tied up in this photo, the two on each side are hitting the floor, not in use right now, not tied up to any shaft. deb. Try it just moving your feet while sitting in a chair or on your bench before you actually change the tie up. No tithes etc. I am just about to own my very first counterbalance loom ( Lilstena 4shaft) I have not actually seen it yet and it will be dismantled, it was advertised as free to a good home! 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